Nurses on the Frontline of the Coronavirus Pandemic – Part 1 Transcript

Coronavirus Empowered Princess Nurses Episode: Part 1

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Three-minute life story of Desi.

{Brittany} We, Sarah and I, have the privilege of being joined today by an incredibly relevant, I guess, timely relevant interviewee: Desi. And we're going to keep her last name confidential for the protection of her identity and her witness protection program situation. We're just kidding. 

{Desi} There’s a lot to get into there. {Brittany} That will be part of the life story situation. Desi, and she is a nurse. A newly appointed ICU nurse out in Napa Valley in Northern California. So, in many, many ways is part of the forefront of the current COVID-19 medical task force that is literally on the forefront of the biggest threat against humanity today, right now. 

And we're all feeling the ripple effects of that. So, welcome Desi. Thank you so much for joining us for the podcast, were so excited that you're here. {Desi} Thanks for having me. I'm very excited and it's a nice little happier break here. 

{Brittany} Awesome. One of the best, and I guess my favorite, feature of Desi is her sharp wit and her sense of humor. So, in the middle of what can seem like a hopeless situation, not only is she actually pragmatically providing relief and care for humanity, but she's also


providing a little bright spark of joy and happiness in our lives through this podcast. So, we thank you for that and thank you Sarah as well for coordinating everything to make this all happen. So, woohoo, here we are. {Sarah} Here we are. 

{Brittany} And Desi just made a comment in our intro about the fact that her brothers took care of all of the things, so then she had to up her social game. So, I feel like it's a great segue into asking her first of all to talk more about that and also just give us her life story in three minutes. 

{Desi} OK, well, I'll do a little life story action and then that other stuff. I was born here in the Napa Valley. I've got four older brothers that are fantastic, really great parents. All really big personalities. So, as you can imagine we all get along wonderfully.


I grew up in the town I still live in; small town life, knew everybody I graduated with, had been in class with them since kindergarten. And that was really my world. And then when I graduated high school, I decided to take a gap year and I lived with a brother of mine that was abroad, stationed in Jerusalem at the time. 

And I traveled around that area, lived in that area, took some trips in Europe and through Jordan and Israel and Palestine. Met an awesome nurse practitioner there that encouraged me to check out the nursing scene more seriously. 

And I got back home in December of 2012 and nursing school kind of just fell into my lap and it's all been smooth sailing since then, until I actually got into the career and it's all problems now. I work on a telemetry step down unit; or have been for the last four years and I'm actually starting my full-time ICU job next week, so. 

{Brittany} Wow. {Desi} Great timing. I gotta learn about those ventilators, I guess. {Brittany} Right? OK, for the regular people, can you break down what Telemetry step down unit means?


{Desi} Oh yeah. So, I work- It's called the heart and Vascular unit. It's pretty much patients that aren't sick enough to need hourly monitoring and invasive monitoring equipment but are critical enough that they need to be on constant heart monitoring. 

And the biggest difference is if you're an ICU you have two patients that you're dedicated to because those two patients need your full attention. In Telemetry step down unit you have four patients. Because they’re theoretically not as unstable. 

{Brittany} So it's like Demi-ICU. {Desi} Yeah, it's-. They're either getting worse or getting better and they are in flux. {Brittany} OK, OK. And are your four, at any given time, getting better or worse? Or is it a mix? 

{Desi} It's a mix. It's a total mix, just depends on the patient, and the assignment that you have for that shift. {Brittany} OK, cool. OK, so talk more about what you meant by you had to step up your social game because your brothers did everything for you. 

{Desi} Oh well. Like I said I have four brothers. They are all in my unbiased opinion geniuses in their own right. {Sarah} Tortured geniuses. {Desi} Tortured geniuses. She knows well. She's married to one of 'em. 

You know they have very charismatic personalities, very mechanical minds, very-. The joke is with some of my brothers, they'll make one move and one of them will say this is the beginning of our empire, and that's really how they think sadly. So anyways, growing up, they


did a ton of stuff, they learned a lot of practical life skills. Mario can take apart a car and put it back together and take apart of washing machine put it back together; with little to no formal education on the mechanical things. 

{Sarah} He only has a few extra parts each time, but somehow still works. {Desi} I have no understanding of most practical life skills. I'm a ‘fake it till you make it’ kind of a girl. But through trying to navigate the emotionally repressed nature of my four brothers, I have become pretty decent at the social aspect and emotional aspect of life. 

And that's really been super applicable in my job where you're taking care of a body, which is a lot of mechanical and chemical and physiological processes, but you kind of need to see the bigger picture to understand those smaller things. {Brittany} Sure, sure. 

I feel like there are-. We've talked about this a couple of times in where is your Kingdom? And in our intro as well, that you team up where you’re weak. So rather than focus a lot of energy on things that you're not really good at, what you do is you surround your life with people who are good at those things. 

You surround yourself in life with people who are good at those things so that you can focus on what you're good at and they can focus on what they're good at, and neither of you are, you know, spending a lot of energy on things that you're probably not going to be really good at.

Even if you pour a lot of energy into yourself. So that's really cool. Love, love, love. OK this, we showed all of the questions to Desi in advance, except Sarah snuck a few in. {Sarah} I had to throw in a random question. 'cause that's just how I roll sometimes. 

Three favorite Disneyland things.

So, I know that you are also a Disney fan as Brittany and I are. So, I want to know when you go to Disneyland, what are your three favorite things


and why? {Desi} OK, well the first thing that jumps to my mind are the soft pretzels. The Mickey Mouse shape soft pretzels. I love them. In fact, I went to Disneyland last year, I think in September. 

We had my sister in law’s mother visiting from Brazil and we surprised her with a trip to Disneyland. She cried when she met Mickey, like a grown woman crying. It was so cute, but I dragged them around half of the park in search of the soft pretzels.

I was like, I'm not leaving without. I don't even like them with cheese or any sauce. I don't know what it is, it's just- {Sarah} They're the ones shaped like Mickey right? {Desi} Yeah. Yeah, so that's the first. 

The second is: I love Indiana Jones just because he was like my childhood fictional crush. {Sarah} Younger Har- well middle-aged Harrison Ford. What is his middle age? How do we even know? {Desi} Yeah, he's timeless and then -


Half of his face is timeless.


{Brittany} I hope that you don't know me when I'm forty-three or whatever it is that he is in that film. Half of my hair will be timeless, I'm sure.


{Desi} You got that look down. Third favorite thing. Probably. Ah, walking down Main Street, I think. Just because it really encapsulates a time and a feeling of the world we all want to live in. And there's so many secret little things and, you know, myths about it. 

Different- Oh, there's a secret Tarot card reader up above the candy shop there at certain times of the day. And, you know, you hear all this stuff and you can't help but try to find it so. {Brittany} Don’t they say that if you walk into the park at Disneyland there's a Morse code of the speech that Disney gave when it opened, I think.

There's a clicking and it's Morse code of his opening speech of the park. {Desi} See? The attention to detail. {Brittany} And he had an apartment, that I understand was fully functional, on Main Street. 

And so, when you walk in there's always a light that’s on that represents the apartment that he had that was there. {Desi} See, see, the attention to detail. {Brittany} I love that. Also, I think I’m going to confess that I cannot make it through a full Mickey shaped pretzel because it's so dry.


{Sarah} You need the cheese sauce is what I'm hearing. {Brittany} I feel like I need a liter of water or some kind of sparkling beverage to get me through a quarter of it.  It's like the salt crystals are the size of your pinky nail and then the whole thing is so dry. 

So, I don't know if this is maybe the time to reinvent that or figure out how to have a self-saucing pretzel. {Sarah} Maybe just a big cup of butter. That’s what I would want.


{Brittany} See. I feel like Papa John's has a lock on that. It's not butter. It's like soybean oil, but it's like the garlic sauce that they-. {Sarah} Garlic flavoring. {Brittany} Yeah, see we should... {Desi} OK. Alright, with the powers combined of Disney and Papa John's I will test all of your guys’ suggestions and give you detailed review. 

{Brittany} Yeah, we should do like- you know how they do them recently, and I don't know who did this, but some pizza company did a hot dog stuffed crust. And then they've always done the cheese and the pepperoni stuffed crust selection. 

Maybe let's just have a pizza Mickey Pretzel. You know what I'm saying? {Desi} This kind of genius is what keeps my job security actually. {Brittany} 100%. We will all be one of your four patients. Based on our poor theme park food choices. 

{Sarah} I just go straight to the churros. That's mine. That's my favorite thing. {Brittany} That's fair, that’s fair. We will, Sarah, you and I will share a room separated by curtains in Desi’s step-down unit. Based on our poor selections.


{Desi} You’re gonna be so much trouble. {Brittany} Based on our poor selections. Yeah, you're definitely going to need to be assigned to just us, 'cause we're going to have some pretty high demands. {Desi} Sounds like it. {Brittany} Like in bed story time, every night. 

{Desi} This pretzel’s way too dry. {Brittany} The pretzels are way too dry.


Also, can you put your pajamas on and hop into the bed with us and read us stories. {Desi} That I haven't tried, but I'm sure I could give it a go once before I was fired. 

{Brittany} That might be worth it. {Desi} For the memories. {Brittany} HIPAA makes the recording of that very difficult, but you could potentially retire on the YouTube ads that you could sell off of that one video. {Sarah} Yeah, that's true. That's true. 

Becoming a nurse.

{Brittany} OK, before that goes any darker. Desi, when did you first know that you wanted to become a nurse? {Desi} Probably-. I mean I had an inkling up when I was a senior in high school, 'cause I was doing in anatomy and physio class that I was just nerding out on. 

But it was always staring me in the face. My mom's a nurse and my dad's a pharmacist. Really the only influence that had on me up until that point was, I always begged them to take me to a real doctor. It never happened. 

And then when it finally did happen, I was so certain I had something really wrong with me this time. I was 15; I had stomach aches, really sharp, stomach pains for like four or five days. So, my mom was like, alright we’ll take you to your pediatrician. And it was the first time I'd ever met her, and they do an X-ray, and it turns out I was just severely constipated.


{Sarah} What a disappointment. {Desi} No credibility from that point on.


But yeah, so they're in the medical field, so that was probably subliminally influential. And then prior to meeting this nurse practitioner I'd met in Jerusalem, I wanted to go into the medical-. I'm sorry, the music industry. 

I have no musical talent really, but I love it and I thought maybe going into the business side of things would be cool. I’m very glad I didn't go down that road 'cause I don't think I would have cut it. 

But I got back from Jerusalem and like I said, nursing school just fell into my lap and every step I made to become a nurse just-. The door was always open to make it happen.

{Brittany} Also, if I start a music career, I'm gonna hire you as my agent, so maybe you can back door that second career. 

{Desi} Yeah, I've already committed my second career. I'm going to be an Orca whale researcher, but maybe for a third career. {Brittany} Orca whale researching, I hear, is seasonal. So.


{Desi} They wanna be left alone for about half a year. {Sarah} I hear most of the year they'd actually prefer to be left alone, right? {Desi} We all gotta put up with some people we don't like sometimes. {Brittany} Yeah, that's right. So yeah, off season we’ll talk.


Night shift unique-nesses.

{Sarah} So, I have one of those additional questions for you. So, I know you work the night shift. So, what are the unique-nesses that -I don't know if that's actually a real word- but make up the night shift that you love. What draws you to that and keeps you there? 

{Desi} So, I've actually been a morning person my whole life and just by the arbitrary assignment of new hires; You go to days, you go to night. I ended up on night shift all throughout my initial new grad nurse orientation. 

On day shift I was like, oh the second a day shift opens up I'm coming back. I'll see you guys later. And then I started night shift and I realized it's a real community and a family on nights, especially at the hospital I work on. 

There’re nights, you know, that are fantastic, and I sit back, and I say man, I can't believe I'm getting paid for this. It's so relaxing and chill. I just got to kind of make sure everybody's vitals are OK and try to be quiet so the patients can get some sleep. 

And then other times it's like the Wild Wild West and I get to be the cowboy. And you know there's not a lot of resources available on nights and so you have to make do with what you have. 

And because of that we have developed these incredible bonds with my coworkers and my supervisors and the whole care team. We really have a lot of respect for each other and because of those more relaxing nights, we've been able to develop really wonderful relationships. 

And, yeah, I think that's the biggest unique difference; that we have the luxury at times to have a quieter night and get to know one another. And then when things go wild and go haywire, we trust each other so, so much.

{Brittany} That's incredible. I always envision you when you're talking about limited resources. I envision you guys as Houston during Apollo 13, where they're like, OK, this is what everybody has to deal with. {Desi} Yeah, duct tape. That's kind of what it feels like sometimes,


you know. I mean It’s a business, so at the end of the day- so a lot of things shut down after 6:00 PM and if we wanted to get a stat X-ray during the day, it might take 6 minutes to get a stat X-ray.

Judicious - gushing or oozing.

During the night It might take like 30 minutes to get that just because of the nature of the environment. So, it is just being really creative, and again you know, for on nights we might have one or two doctors on site and so you have to be really- What’s the word? Judicial? Is that the right word for?


Contact them-. {Brittany} Judicious? {Desi} Judicious, yeah, with what you're contacting them with and what you're saying because you don't want to burn them out. And then when things are really serious, you know they might be too busy with menial stuff. 

{Brittany} Sure, yeah, it's so funny. This is not- I want you to understand that I'm telling this story in true terror, that this will not be relevant and be very patronizing. However, when I was in college to pay bills, I worked as a business manager for a dental surgery for a series of dental surgeries across Sydney Australia, where I went to University. 

To save money, sometimes they would call me in, and I would sub out for nursing, so they trained me on the job. But I didn't have any qualifications. I was CPR certified but no qualifications and I I'm telling you right now I was assisting in surgeries. 

I can't-. I don't want to- Can't talk about it. So anyway, but this one time I was working with a cosmetic dentist and he was doing implants, a lot of implants. And the rule- ‘course of all this was on a Sunday, so they call you in. 

So, on a Sunday in Australia you get time and a half or double time. So, I'm like, yes please and thank you, even if I have to nurse assist and business manage. I'm paying for my undergraduate degree and at that point of time I was helping to pay for my then boyfriend now husband's master’s degree. 

So, I was like, sure no problem. Whatever. Walk in and he's like under no circumstances do you knock on this door while I'm in the surgery. I'm like no problem, perfect. I can get all of my front office work done. All of the insurance billing done, no problems. 

And then I've got a paper to write for tomorrow, so I'm just going to do that. And you guys are going to pay me like $50.00 hour to do it, perfect. Unfortunately, that was the day that there was a legitimate medical emergency that came in and this guy comes walking in the front door and he's like I have an emergency, which in a dental office usually means they have a toothache.

So, I’m like, Is it a toothache? Are you feeling bad? He's like no, my son. And he steps to the side and his son comes up behind him, you know, white cricket uniform and he has blood pouring out of his mouth all the way down his white cricket uniform. And I'm like,


oh, oh, I'm gonna need you guys to hold on for just one second. And I'm putting gloves on as I'm walking to the surgery where the Doctor is, who told me to not interrupt. And I knocked softly and I'm like excuse me doctor so and so, I need you to come outside right now.

He's like did I not-. Through the door he's like I told you do not interrupt me, and I was like OK we have a blood- bloody gushing mouth situation. I'm using words like a five-year-old 'cause I don't know. So anyway, so this-. 

So, he's like get him into surgery one, look at it and tell me- look into his mouth. Is the blood gushing or oozing? And I'm like OK, OK cool. So, I walk out to the front of the reception room and I tell this little boy -he's like 12 or 13, and again still lots of blood- and his mom who is sheet white and his dad who is wrangling the other two kids and trying to get my attention. 

And I'm like everybody we’re just going to move through to surgery one. I sit them down. I'm now left trying to put protective gear on my body as I'm trying to calm the situation down. So, I'm now getting a mask on so I can look into the mouth of this kid. 

And I get the kid into the chair and I get the family situated. I get the mom to sit down, 'cause I don't want her to pass out and have another medical situation. So, I get her to sit down and the dad like what? what? 

And I was like I'm just going to take a look inside the mouth and then we'll let you know. And the whole time I'm having that hot-cold vomit-y feeling. {Desi} I've been there. {Brittany} And I’m like honey? I'm gonna need you, Brittany. I need you to focus right now. 

You cannot vomit and you cannot pass out. Those are


the two things I need you to focus on right now and I'm like, OK, don't vomit, don't pass out. And I'm like can I get you to open your mouth a little bit, so he opened his mouth and his two front teeth are launched into the hard palate of his mouth. 

Yeah, and I'm like you have one job. Well you have three jobs; don't vomit, don't pass out, and is it gushing or oozing? So, I'm like I no longer know what- I don't have the criteria for determining whether it's gushing oozing. 

It's like there's so much blood, and so I'm like, OK. So, I go back, and I'm like hey which one is worse gushing or oozing? He's like gushing. I'm like it's definitely gushing. I need you to come now. 

So, I get him to come in and he's like Oh my gosh, you should have sent them to the emergency room. And I'm like I told you I had a problem. I needed some help and he was like OK. But he also, in his spare time 'cause he was bored, was also an MD. 

So, he's having me assist. Now we remove the teeth from the hard palate, plug it all up, put them in, put stints in, reinforce it across the bridge and send them on their way to the emergency room and whatnot. 

And I was like oh boy. I don't know how to be judicious when I'm calling the doctor now, I just don't. I don't know. I wasn't trained so I can only- that was my sad little patronizing ‘I don't know how to be judicious’. 

{Desi} No. That’s the feeling. We talk about having the responsibility with judgment call, you know, at work it's-. You're the eyes and ears for the doctor, especially on nights and especially for surgeons, and you really have to be smart about whether to contact them or not. I know it seems weird because it's


the person. But it's also like can this wait another three hours, you know? {Brittany} Sure, sure, and some of those things are difficult to assess, you know, is it gushing or oozing? I don't know. One needs attention now. One can wait for three hours, right? {Sarah} Yeah. {Desi} Yeah. 

What animated Princess did you relate to the most?

{Sarah} So, one thing that we've talked a lot about and that we're always interested to hear from people is kind of growing up what animated Princess did you relate to the most and why? I think everybody's answer is usually different, so I'm excited to hear yours. 

{Desi} My Disney Princess. It's not exactly a Princess, but she turns out to be the Queen, right? So, it works. {Sarah} Yeah, she skipped it. {Desi} She leveled up. But it’s Nala. My brothers actually called me Nala when I was growing up because I watched The Lion King every day for at least a year straight. 

My mom says it was the first movie she ever took me to go see when I was six months old. It was by far my favorite movie. So yeah, Nala. And why? She's well, she's awesome, has a little rough edge to her. 

She doesn't mess around with any tomfoolery and she keeps all the men in her life in place. {Sarah} Yeah, she tells him what they need to do. {Desi} Keep someone in line. {Brittany} I feel like she, more so maybe, then Rafiki and Mufasa combined calls out Simba. 

{Desi} Yes, on his immaturity. {Brittany} Yeah, and like Oh my God I need more time in the desert to figure out who I am and what I need to be, and she's like actually you know what? Everybody's dying and nobody has any food, and scar has taken over so I'm gonna need you to level up be the man you need to be and come back with me now. {Desi} She's like


I need you to do three things, don't vomit, don’t pass out,


and tell me if it's oozing or gushing. {Brittany} And identify if it’s oozing or gushing. And Nala got it done. {Desi} She did. {Brittany} I feel like everybody says ‘Yas Queen’ and I feel like for Empowered Princess we say Princess Yes. So, there you go, Nala. Princess Yas. I love that. 

{Desi} She’s my go to. {Brittany} Love, love, love. OK so, speaking of the animated Princess that you felt you related to the most. If you could have any animal sidekick in your life, what would it be?

Animal sidekick.

{Desi} I would love to have a very well-trained huge wolf as my sidekick. Yeah, so magical and majestic and intimidating. {Brittany} Into it, into it. Why? Why? Walk us through the process. {Desi} Well I love just the way they look, so cool with their piercing eyes and they're beautiful but fierce and you have appropriate fear of them.

And then also because I like the pack mentality. Really big on, I think, the loyalty, you know, that's ingrained in their DNA is pretty unique to them. And I think that we all could take a page out of that, how do I say? 

Not having a selfish motivation be the main motivation for an action, but having loyalty ingrained into your thought processes. {Brittany} I love that, that’s so cool. {Desi} And for a sidekick, I mean, what's a better quality for a sidekick than loyalty? 

{Brittany} For sure. Yeah, absolutely. Interestingly enough, have you guys ever heard of the podcast: ‘Stuff you should know’? {Desi} No.


{Brittany} I think it's an NPR podcast, I can be under correction. Neal and I were recently on a road trip and had to return based on the quarantine and stay at home orders that were unfolding as we were on a road trip. 

So, we ended up coming back home which meant we had another like twenty hours in a car to listen to lots of podcasts. So, we ended up with listening to this one. It was on coyotes. So, the thing that I was thinking about with the loyalty aspect, is that actually coyotes can live independently or live in packs. 

But females-. The reason why coyotes have withstood multiple attempts at unilateral extinction like efforts from farmers and organized governmental extinction shooting kill orders, is that the females give out this call to each other and if they don't hear enough calls back, hormonally their body changes to start to come to carry more babies. 

So, however many babies they need to carry to propagate the species they adjust based on what they hear back or what they don't hear back in their- {Desi} That is incredible. 

{Brittany} Right? I was like, think about loyalty to your pack. 

The girls are like OK not a problem we will single handedly create more coyote babies. {Desi} That's incredible. {Brittany} I know, right? Blew my mind. Alright, little off topic but I felt like that was a loyal animal sidekick thing.

So, we’re holding strong on wolf. I just want to put into consideration coyote for if we have this conversation in a year, that's all. {Desi} Yeah, and they're like-. I tried to get pretty much a Wolf. I got a Husky mix last year. How? It


It was not a good decision. Turns out I am a beta and he was the Alpha and he kicked my butt. It was not a good experience. {Brittany} Wait, just a husky? Mix with what? {Desi} It was a husky shepherd mix, but it looked like a wolf. 

His name was Nitro, which I thought was so cute 'cause I'm a cardiac nurse, and Nitro Glycerin we give when people have heart attacks. I didn't think of the idea that like Nitro is extremely explosive right? It's like


a volatile body, that aspect of it. {Brittany} That's heartbreaking. Yeah, he's in a way better home now. It ended up much better for everybody involved. But it was a tough lesson. It was a rough Christmas. I'll give you that.


{Brittany} Oh dear. I do feel like Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman has set us up for a fail on all wanting wolves. {Sarah} It's true. I mean, that was just a fat husky, let's be honest. {Desi} A well fed husky. {Brittany} Wasn’t it a malamute?


Maybe, what’s the other one. {Desi} I don’t know. It’s too small to be a malamute. {Brittany} OK, so it's just a fat husky. {Sarah} Another reason to re watch Dr. Quinn. {Brittany} Quarantine I'm getting on the Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman bandwagon. 

Especially the episode where she describes- they have a plague episode and she has to educate everybody on what a germ is, which is this invisible animal. And that's why it's important to quarantine. 

And nobody- like Lauren and Hank are like, that's not real. There’re not invisible animals, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is still happening today.


It's never been more relevant. Special event with Dr. Quinn, she’s just killing it. 

Positive or negative Princess experiences.

Desi, when I say the word Princess. What experiences both positive or negative or both does that conjure up for you?

{Desi} Initially I think more negative. Sadly. Just because you know, my brothers or dad would be like, Oh, she's being such a Princess right now, you know and use it negatively. But the more I think on it and thought on it; 

I think it's had a revolution, the term, has a rebranding that's kind of this-. I like it 'cause it's this balance between Empowered, as your lovely podcast would suggest, and Empowered and influential, but it also leaves room for a different interpretation of strength in femininity and a different interpretation of what strength could be, which can be emotional strength, something more than just physical brute strength. 

It can be determination or tenacity, you know. The term leaves room for that. And in a positive way. I mean, one of the most amazing nurses I've ever worked with who is gone through just the most insane situations over and over, and we call her Princess Ari. 

'cause she looks like Princess Jasmine, like spot on. And you know anytime she comes out of a crazy situation, it’s the end of the shift, she's literally short of breath with all the activity of the night and the judgment calls and the scary moments, we just go, good on you Princess Ari, good on you, you know? 

{Brittany} That's amazing. Thank you everybody for tuning in, that concludes our podcasts for the day. Your description of Princess just now. I don't know if we're going to get more gold than that. I'm


just kidding. We have lots more gold for you coming, but that was amazing. Sarah,

I'm so sorry, I can see you were going to say something. Go ahead. {Sarah} No, no, I was just going to agree with Desi, 'cause I've actually met this person and she's right on. 

{Brittany} That's incredible. I love too that it has been, and it is being redeemed. The idea. So, that's really cool.

Fairy godmother advice.

Alright Sarah, you wanna take the next one? {Sarah} Yeah, I think so. So, if we're thinking of some of those different archetypes as well, one of them that goes along with the Princess motif is that of fairy godmothers. 

So, if one of those were real, I mean, the jury is out on whether they are or not. I'm not saying yes or no, but what do you think yours would tell you today? {Desi} Hmm. She'd have a lot to say to me, I'm sure. I just got a lot of rough around the edges stuff. 

No, she'd probably tell me to get more sleep. Wear more moisturizer. And


kind of say things to keep me accountable to being compassionate and being more focused on sympathetic patient care. That's something that can easily be kind of the corner that can be cut when things go haywire. 

And it's a bad habit to get into, and so I would think and I would hope that she would kind of kick my butt a little bit when I get cavalier at work and, you know, help me remember that it's another day at work for me, but it's a really big issue and terrifying situation for most patients. 

{Sarah} Yeah, yeah, I think that. Plus, she would probably bring you some excellent pairs of shoes. {Desi} Yes, I mean I do a pretty good job with my shoe addiction. Keeping up with it. I just ordered another pair. 

I just got my new ones for work, but I got a pair of Air Force Nikes 'cause I can't help myself. {Brittany} I was going to say what are your shoes of choice for work? {Desi} Oh, I have probably ten pairs. I got New Balance’s, ASICS’, Nike. I'm just well branded.


{Brittany} So basically, shoes are covered but we need to work on moisturizer. {Desi} Yes, yes. My mom and fairy godmother would say the same. {Sarah} California's real dry sometimes. {Desi} I don't even know that until Sarah moved here. 

I had no concept of what dry air was and then she pointed it out. That's all I can think about now is, Oh my gosh, it's so dry here. {Brittany} Yeah, so the way you can tell is in the summertime, wherever you are, if you step into shade, if immediately your armpits stop sweating or reduce the production of sweats, you know you're in a dry climate. 

If you live in the jungle like I do here in Orlando. in the summertime if you step into the shade, all sweat production stays exactly the same. {Sarah} And the mosquitoes eat you alive. {Brittany} Correct. Yeah, yeah. There's a dog eat dog kind of ecosystem in the jungle that never sleeps.

Winter, summer, sun, dark, it is constantly there. And all we do-. {Sarah} And humidity is always the winner. {Brittany} It is the winner. Although I have heard, and nobody knows 'cause we don't have enough data yet, but I have heard that humidity and heat reduce the rate of spread for COVID-19. 

So, that's the only time I've ever been grateful for 97-degree weather in March. Yeah, yeah. 

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